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9/18/2012 9:58:00 PM
Letter: Lawn needs mowing? Why not hire that homeless guy

EDITOR:

In response to Mr. Brix's letter Sept. 7, the reason the homeless guy does not come over to your house to mow, weed and trim is your unwillingness to ask him.

The reasons you won't ask him are many. First, you would have to drive him to and from your home in your car. But I don't expect you would want a homeless guy in your car because it would smell bad and get dirty. Second, while he is at your home doing the work, he might need to use your bathroom. But I do not expect you would want him in your bathroom because you might catch something. Third, what would the neighbors think when they saw this homeless man working around your house. Horrors! They might think you were a Democrat! And fourth, you are sure he would only spend the money on alcohol and drugs and you would be contributing to his sad situation, not helping at all.

I hope the little girl's parents explained to her that talk is cheap. And if you wanted to help the homeless guy by having him work for his money, you would give him some work. And at least the little girl wanted to help him until he finds someone willing to give him work.

No wonder her parents are proud. Are you doing anything besides talking?

Meg Kleinman

Prescott



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Reader Comments

Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2012
Article comment by: Tom Von Deck

To @Educated and Skilled: Glad you got some chuckles out of my comment. "Pot meet kettle." That was the point, Mr. Kettle. Sincerely, Mr. Pot.

Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2012
Article comment by: @

@"Go Ahead....."
Not just the homeless. I hired a yard man who advertised in the DC. He was licensed and bonded. He charged $30.00 an hour for yard work. I had to ask him three times to get of his cell phone while he was leaning up against my outdoor lamp post. He worked 1 1/2 hours but insisted he be paid for two.
Next time I needed help with my yard I went down to Quixote's Garage and asked if anyone wanted to work. The man who came forward followed me home and he worked his butt off non stop for three straight hours even though I invited him to sit and rest over a sandwich and drink. He refused to eat or drink until the work was finished.
godschild994@yahoo.com


Posted: Saturday, September 22, 2012
Article comment by: Go ahead...

Go ahead and try to hire a homeless person to work for you. I have tried this in the past to help me pull weeds in my large yard. The times I tried this, those people were NOT interested in working for a dollar. They only wanted a hand out (as one of them took a phone call on his cell phone)!!! I learned my lesson to not even pay attention to them any longer. Sometimes I wonder if the younger generation is learning from the homeless. Seems like an epidemic.

Posted: Friday, September 21, 2012
Article comment by: @ Educated and Skilled

Whatever - you move back here and whine. As for Tom Van Dreck - the irony of suggesting I move to China is simple too rich.

Pot, meet kettle.


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: To: @Educated and Skilled

Boy do you make a lot of assumptions! I have never owned a Jag, drink cheap wine and cook myself for your information. Left the big grand house behind in that rust belt state which was also a right to work state, but was different from the way this state choses to use that power. Also, my husband was from this area, left, and wanted to come back. He was shocked at what this nice town had become. I like to call people like you the vocal minority who spew this type of ignorance, intolerance and hatred toward other people who just happen to lighten your tax obligations by WORKING for a living. Thanks Tom Von Deck - nice retort.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: @ Educated and Skilled

Whether you belonged to a union or not - you benefited from their presence.

As seen by the wages you are now offered for your services in a right to work state.

Like I said - it's capitalism at it's finest. Sorry you aren't getting paid what you THINK YOU deserve. That's not how it works here in the Red State of Arizona.



Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Tom Von Deck

To @Educated and Skilled: Last I checked we live in a democracy - or a free republic as you may prefer. We the people get to decide on policies and union matters without being asked to leave for not agreeing with you - our master. If you don't like democracy, try China.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: @ Educated and Skilled

Sounds to me like you and your husband are used to living a certain lifestyle and don't know how to live within your means.
My suggestion, sell the Jag, don't dine out as much, and put the bottle of Chardonnay back on the shelf.
And for those poor people living paycheck to paycheck...see above!


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Midge Baker

@To: Midge From: It isn't a

Sorry I construed. Picture me crawling on my belly in abject apology. ( lmao at that funny picture -- I know what I look like)

Thanks for your kind thoughts. My husband and I will be praying for you.


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: no name provided

We make a habit of mocking out those things we are most afraid of and understand little about.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: To : @Educated and Skilled

Sorry but neither one of us belonged to a union. Next argument.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: @ Educated and Skilled

The tradesman salaries you saw back East were the result of Unions inflating your wages.

Welcome to the land of the true capitalist - this is a right to work State and goods and services will be paid for as the market dictates.

If you don't like it - leave.


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Educated and Skilled

To Jack May:
Jack, many working people in this region are still below the poverty level although they work 40 hours per week. People move here for the benefits of living in such a beautiful area but cannot find the level of employment/compensation they were previously making in other areas of the county or that their skills dictate they should be paid. Our cost of living is slightly higher than the national average although some major costs (like property taxes) are much lower than in the area they may have previously lived.

I have a BS (employed in professional capacities all of my working life including as an instructor at a large university) and my husband is a skilled tradesman with over 35 years in his profession. One problem is that Arizona does not recognize the 'master' designation in any of the skilled trades, thereby limiting earning potential. Both of us were making very good wages back east prior to the recession that hit the rust belt in 2004 or so. Imagine how shocked I was to learn that the top earnings I could garner amounts to about what I was making 15 - 20 years ago back east. With the county being the largest employer in this area we lack the needed jobs to support the number of working-age residents of our area. An oh, before anyone states that we lack a skilled workforce to draw great companies, you are very misinformed. I deal daily with people from both ends of the educational and employment spectrums and believe me, there are many more people who do have an education higher than high school and exceed most job descriptions in reference to experience than those who do not meet those standards.
So Jack when you state that most people who have experienced hardship recently are somehow at fault I would advise you to be very careful......it certainly could happen to you if your retirement investment vanishes due to no fault of your own or some other financial or medical tragedy occurs. Many of your friends and neighbors may be one check away from living in their car in the park.


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Mr Maverick

Mitt Romney admits his father took welfare and food stamps when they came up from Mexico. Why isn't our ever present conservatives not flaming Mitt's father for living off the government? He was one of the 47% of us that depend on our monthly government checks that Mitt has written off.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: HATE IN AMERICA

@JUST SAYING-even if Obama is re-elected, the good thing is:NOTHING LASTS FOREVER.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Homeless Illegals

seem to be taken care of better than a true American citizen. Crossing our borders illegally and receiving "shelter, food, welfare checks, free education" seems a bit lopsided on our country's side, don t you think.?

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: John Citizen says.......

most "homeless" are addicts and plain, just don't want to work. Money for more alcohol or drugs....never give to the "street p eople" but to the "food banks" or charities instead. Most homeless don't want food, just their addictions. Seen this many times over. sad situation but true..............................................

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Donnie Baker

What about the "Homeless guy" that sits at different spots along the entire strip where the PV Safeway is? I See him there many days. Then later i see him at the Casino spending all of your cash, all of you who "helped" him ,on $1 beers and trying to take your money and turn into a nice big jackpot LOL !! There are truly some homeless out there needing help, but i would bet over half of them are laughing all the way to the bank??

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: To: Midge From: It isn't a

I was commenting about the story about the little girl who wanted to become president someday. I didn't find any humor in the joke. Although I have never been homeless, I have experienced illness that left me in financial ruin. I was forced to sell my home and pay off the portion my health insurance didn't cover. I understand how quickly any of us could become homeless. I wish you and your husband good health.


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Right On Meg!

Over many years my daughter and her husband have been involved in trap-alter-release of feral cats and developed a friendship with a homeless man living in an adjacent common area who would update her on the feral situation.

One year she told me she given him a new tent and propane heater to keep him warm and I thought wow I would have never even thought to do that! That area is not the safest environment to be in.

When I last visited her there was a man in the garage building shelves. She hires this homeless man who had once worked in construction and even been an engineer! He probably got to shower there!

Recently I found out he was once a veteran and she had successfully pursued getting a housing allowance for him despite her busy professional life. He was entitled to it and it was not a handout. The latest I have heard is that he has been given the use of an older 'catmobile' jeep. He is no longer homeless.

All this has cost very little, involved no tax payer assistance or government handout and has made all the difference. There are ways to make a difference that are not even expensive or very hard to do. A friendly or caring gesture can even make a big difference.



Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Jill Dosh

I bought a burger and a soda for a guy with a 'will work for food' sign...he didn't want it!! He needed cash to buy food for his kids....so he said. A bum has burned any friends and family, or he's mentally ill. Especially if you have children, their safety should be first. You can teach them about charity at your local church, or volunteer to dish out food for the homeless on Thanksgiving. Bring a drug fueled mad man to your house??? You may be the crazy one here! First he will use your bathroom, search for drugs in your medicine cabinet. Then he will leave the window open just enough for it not to latch, granting him access to your home and belongings, and God forbid your children as well.
Next trip to grammas' house and you could come home to a ravaged home, or worse. Let the homeless guy get tired of begging, sober up enough to visit a local homeless shelter. With a shower and a shave he just might find a job.


Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Just Saying

No takers in my wager of $10,000 (Romney's favorite amount) that he, romney will "loose" the presidency of the USA in 2012. What does that tell you about the Republicans? Even THEY have no faith in their boy. Well he can go back to one of his 8 homes in a few more weeks and not be heard from again. BTW I am not voting for EITHER of these two major candidates of the "major" parties, they both suck. Voting for the lesser of two evils leads to more evil.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Midge Baker

@Reed Winfrey and @It isn't a

"in response to AD MITT. You used quotation marks indicating you were quoting Mitt Romney's words but in reality you made up the words yourself."

"Not a true story, only a story to inflame people who already think less of their fellow men and women who are homeless."

Actually, no. I saw the same "article" AD MITT saw elsewhere on the web -- on one of those satirical sites. It's meant to be funny by pointing out Mr. Romney's seeming hypocrisy in his "47%" speech.

In response to @ Midge & John and @Disheartened

-- thank you both for your kind thoughts. Like I said, we're doing okay since I got my SSD. It pays the bills. It's funny. Remember early in the campaign when Mr. Romney said the speaking fees he got the year before "weren't much"? He was talking about $374,000 -- which would pay my space rent for 117 YEARS.

@MD

"People like Jack May could be one serious illness or an accident away from losing a job as well as healthcare insurance and maybe eventually their home unless ,of course , someone bails them out."

All too true. Thank God for Medicaid.

In 2006, John developed severe intestinal infection. For the first six months, they thought he had colon cancer, but it turned out to be caused by a Third World bacteria that doesn't normally occur in this country. He couldn't work for two years. Luckily, I had just gotten a job a Wal Mart, that got us out of that tent, then into a motel, and finally into a regular apartment. He got a full time job at a recycling yard in 2008.

In 2009, I was stricken be that "flesh-eating" disease, which developed into necrotising fascitis. That's when I became disabled, with a chunk surgically excised from my left butt cheek big enough to put a cantaloupe in. It took four and a half months to heal.

We become homeless (again) after each of these incidents.



Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: Tom Von Deck

All I can say at this point is that these hateful trolls have to live with themselves. ... There is a way out of a life of hurtful stereotypes and abusive language. Try sustaining a traumatic brain injury and not being able to hold a job. Wouldn't that suck? Experience it sometime. You might learn something.

Posted: Thursday, September 20, 2012
Article comment by: The Rev

With all the nonprofits in this area surely there is one dedicated to finding day labour for the downtrodden. What do their numbers show?


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